_Med (00:10:12): HI GANG
(several hello's)
jfraser: things are looking promising again
Med:
I NEVER THOUGHT THEY WERENT EVER
LIKE I SAID I AM NOT JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS BASED ON ONE DAY ARTICLES
AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP THEIR SANITY I SUGGEST THEY TRY IT ALSO
IF ANYONE BY NOW DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS BY NOW
THEN I HAVE DONE A CRAPPY JOB -- IT IS JUST WHEN THAT IS IN DOUBT
jfraser: I don't get all bent out of shape from day to day anymore
littlecisco: just staying resolute every day, not wavering, and patient
Med:
THAT IS EXACTLY THE WAY TO BE YOU TWO
THE HARDEST FOR ME IS JUST HOW ***bleep*** THEY CAN BE
IT IS NOT I HAVE ?'S ABOUT THE DINAR -- I DONT
...
Read More Link on Right
_I JUST SIT AND READ THE ***bleep*** THAT IS INJECTED INTO THIS BY A BUNCH OF***BLEEP*** LIKE TODAY
jfraser : hard to believe that those guys are the best leaders Iraq could come up with
Med:
THEY HAD A QUORUM
THAT IS CUZ ALL THE GOOD ONES
LEFT
AND WONT COME BACK
AND IT SOUNDS FUNNY
BUT IT IS THE TRUTH
THE BRAINS OF IRAQ DOES NOT LIVE IN IRAQ ANYMORE
THEY ARE ABROAD MAKING A LIVING
jfraser: you were saying that there was a quorum today when I interrupted ({)
Med:
OH OK
NP
THERE WAS
BUT AFTER THE***bleep***REQUEST BY ASADI
WHO IS A MP FOR THE RULE OF LAW
THE KURDS WALKED OUT
AND LEFT THE SOL ACTUALLY SOL
mroberts653: did i read st lou's post right? did they have a 1st reading of the budget today?
Med: WELL FROM WHAT I SAW
mroberts653: or was that one of those teaser articles
Med:
IT INSINUATES IT
NOW IF IT WAS READ
BEFORE THE KURDS WALKED OUT
THEN IT SHOULD STAND
mroberts653: i agree
Med:
NOW HEY HAVE TO WAIT I THINK TWO DAYS
TO DO A SECOND READING
THEN 4 DAYS
AFTER THAT
mroberts653: does that mean they could do the second reading thursday
Med:
IF THAT IS 2 DAYS
YES
mroberts653: or saturday
Med:
MY HEAD IS NOT CALCULATING
RIGHT NOW
LOL
YES
ONE IMPORTANT NOTE
AND TO ME IT IS BIG
THEY AGREED TO THE IMF STANDARDS
FOR THE 2012 BUDGET
I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROBABLY WAS THE LAST CHANCE
FOR THEM WITH THE IMF
mroberts653: i saw that too. that is huge
Med:
IT IS
ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS
IS THAT THIS GOVT JUST OVERSPENDS
mroberts653:
on what?
it sure isn't infrastructure
Med:
THE SALARIES ARE NOT COMMENSURATE WITH THE DUTIES OR THE STANDARDS
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY LIVES AT
THE THIS WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES 3 YRS AGO
THE IMF WANTED A 50% CUT
IN ALL FED SALARIES
mroberts653: i remember
Med:
THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH THEY ALL ARE GETTING PAID
WAY TOO MUCH
BUT THIS IS HOW MALIKI KEEPS THE POLITICAL POWER
HE HAS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
ON BASICALLY HIS PAYROLL
mroberts653: thats the way he wants it
Med:
IN FACT WELL OVER A MILLION
YES IT IS
mroberts653: keep control
Med:
YES
BUT
NOW I SEE OR READ
AND IT WAS TWISTED
BUT IT SEEMS THAT MALIKI HAS BACKED OFF
THE REMOVAL OF MINISTERS
THAT DO NOT RETURN
HE IS ONLY PUTTING IN A PROXY NOW
THIS WAS ACTUALLY A VERY BIG MOVE FOR HIM
AND ONE OF THE FIRST SMART ONES
mroberts653: i dont think he had constitutional rights to do that anyway, did he?
Med:
NOT ACCORDING TO OTHMAN
WHO IS AN EXPERT IN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
HE SAID THERE IS NO SET AMOUNT
OF MEETINGS IN THE CONST. THAT THEY HAVE TO ATTEND
mroberts653: i didn't think so
Med:
LOOK AT PARLIAMENT
THERE IS IN THE CONST.
THAT IF YOU MISS 10%
mroberts653: so it was a smart move by maliki then
Med:
YOU ARE OUT
I THINK SO
BUT HE HAD TO SLOW THINGS DOWN
AFTER THAT ***bleep*** FROM THE SOL
CALLED FOR TERRORISM CHARGES TO BE BROUGHT AGAINST TALIBANI
mroberts653: yeah, things were spiraling out of control
Med: BASED ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
mroberts653: moron is right
Med:
THAT HE WAS HARBORING A TERRORIST
IN KURDISTAN
mroberts653: what was he thinking?
Med:
THAT WAS WHAT I WONDERED
WHY
WHY WOULD YOU GO AND ANGER THE KURDS
AND THEY DID
NOW THE SOL
DID RENOUNCE THE GUY
SAID HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE SOL
CUZ WITHOUT THE KURDS
THEN THE SOL IS SOL
mroberts653: i hear ya
Med:
BUT OVERALL
I ACTUALLY AM HAPPY WITH THE NEWS
I SEE THAT THE UN
SAID THEY CAN COME IN AND SETTLE THIS QUICK
AND OFFERED TO DO SO
mroberts653: i saw something about that too
Med:
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA
AND WOULD BE CONSIDERED IMPARTIAL
THE PROBLEM WITH IRAQ
mroberts653: do we have a congressional comittee over there now also
Med:
THAT ALSO I THINK IS IMPORTANT
ONE REASON
AND I THINK IT IS FOR MEDIATION
IS THERE IS ONE MAN
WHO'S NAME JUMPED OUT
DO YOU KNOW WHO
mroberts653: not a clue
Med:
HE IS A JEW
LIEBERMAN
mroberts653: joe liberman
Med:
YUP
HE IS VERY GOOD AT MEDIATION
mroberts653: very interesting
Med:
NOW IF YOU CAN GET A JEW
TO MEDIATE MUSLIMS
YOU ARE GOOD
mroberts653:
really
i like joe lieberman
Med:
HE JUST HAS THAT MAKE SENSE APPROACH
CALM
INTELLIGENT
AND YOU ARENT GOING TO DISRESPECT A US OFFICIAL
NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION
mroberts653: right on the money there
Med:
NOW HE IS A SENATOR
ISNT HE
NOT A CONGRESSMAN
mroberts653: but how ironic, a jew mediating muslims
Med: I KNOW
mroberts653: that's fantastic
Med:
YES IT IS
HOLD ON
mroberts653:
ok
i was just checking in anyway
was going to try and turn in early this evening, but the night got away from me
Med:
NP
GET SOME REST
I AM IN A BIT
mroberts653:
thought i would jump on and see what's happening
glad i did
Med:
TY
HAVE A GREAT NIGHT
mroberts653:
yw
i'll talk to you later
Med:
OK
GN
*********** SECOND CHAT POST***************************
Med chat 1-4-2012 5:30 am Eastern ---- POST BY GLK
Med says to (05:32:39):
GM
VERY VERY GOOD MOVE BY MALIKI
SHOWING PATIENCE AND TOLERANCE
THIS WAS VERY GOOD POLITICAL MOVE
http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...prime-minister
stlou says to (05:45:06):
news pretty good these last few days
even with Allawi's walkout..
the 40+ that broke off may have helped he quorum yesterday
but what I cannot understand for the life of me..
is that it takes a Jewish man to get Muslims to talk to each other
how ironic
Med says to (05:46:38):
YOU READ MY CHAT
FROM LAST NIGHT
stlou says to (05:46:43):
yup
Med says to (05:46:53):
I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS IRONIC
KINDA SNICKERED
stlou says to (05:47:03):
when I saw the news yesterday I just laughed
i guess their hatred for each other is far bigger than their hate for Jewish people..
now that is big
but I think the reason the budget is being pushed to Thursday is to give the finance committee time to address the Kurds concerns on a paragraph or two, I read that somewhere
Med says to (05:49:36):
IT COULD BE
WAIT NO
THEY HAD TO WAIT
TILL THURSDAY BY LAW
stlou says to (05:50:12):
right
but..
Med says to (05:50:16):
THEY MUST HAVE 48 HRS
THAT WAY DISCUSSION CAN TAKE PLACE
BEFORE THE 2ND READING
stlou says to (05:50:46):
there also was an article stating that the finance committee had to explain some things to parliamant
Med says to (05:50:52):
RIGHT
THAT IS WHY THE 48HRS
BUT SEE THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
WHY PASS A READING
stlou says to (05:51:16):
maybe it does..
Med says to (05:51:23):
IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE PASSING
stlou says to (05:51:34):
IMF came back to finance committee to make adjustments, right?
Med says to (05:51:43):
WELL WHAT THEY DID WAS
CONTINUE TO POUND THE SALARIES
AND OTHER WASTE
stlou says to (05:52:14):
but the bill was already in parliaments hands at the time with the old..
Med says to (05:52:24):
THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE ALL PAID 5O% TOO MUCH
THAT THE SALARIES AND WAGES
FOR GOVT EMPLOYEES
WAS TOO MUCH
FOR THE BUDGET
stlou says to (05:52:52):
right
but..
Med says to (05:53:01):
BUT FOR ME
THESE ARE ALMOST LIKE PAYOLLA
FOR THEIR LOYALTY
stlou says to (05:53:22):
wasn't the original budget, with the old salaries already in parliament's hands since December?
Med says to (05:53:32):
I AM SURE IT WAS
BUT AS YOU MAY REMEMBER
stlou says to (05:53:40):
so it had to be adjusted..
Med says to (05:53:51):
THE IMF WAS ABOUT TO WASH THEIR HANDS OF IRAQ AGAIN
WITH NO MORE ASSISTANCE
EMPTY PROMISES
FOR YEARS
AND PUTTING OFF THE PAYMENTS TO THEM
THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS THE IMF HELPING
IS THE HUGE POTENTIAL IRAQ HAS
TO HELP THE IMF
IN THE LONG RUN
stlou says to (05:55:02):
I think the timeline of these articles is not in sync with the events as they transpire Med
Med says to (05:55:14):
AND THAT COULD BE TRUE
WE DONT KNOW IN A GOVT CONTROLLED MEDIA
WHAT IS ALLOWED OR NOT
stlou says to (05:55:36):
budget goes to parliament (old)
Med says to (05:55:42):
OK
stlou says to (05:55:44):
IMF tells Iraq to change it
finance committee reviews it and makes adjustments, while the old bill sits in parlimant
budget comes up for vote..kurds don't like the language
finance committee completes adjustments per IMF, and goes to parliament to explain in detail the changes
kurds okay with that
according to what I read, the IL is okay with it as well
Med says to (05:57:30):
PART IV IS NOT RIGHT
READ WHAT YOU WROTE
stlou says to (05:57:51):
which part?
Med says to (05:58:10):
budget comes up for vote..kurds don't like the language
stlou says to (05:58:58):
they had some questions about some of the paragraphs from what I read in an article, and the finance committee was called to explain
Med says to (05:59:40):
THE BUDGET CANT COME UP FOR A VOTE
EARLIEST IS NEXT WEEK
stlou says to (06:00:01):
ahh..you are correct in that aspect my friend..my bad
I should've said reading..
Med says to (06:00:24):
BUT THE REST IS SOUND
BUT ALSO
THIS IMF RECOMMENDATIONS
WERE THERE SINCE 2011 BUDGET
THEY IGNORED THEM
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IRAQ HAS
IS NOT ENOUGHT QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS
IN THE KEY FIELDS
LIKE FINANCE
ECONOMY
JUST IN GENERAL
stlou says to (06:02:09):
electricity
Med says to (06:02:16):
THEY SEEM TO LACK THE FORSIGHT
TO PLAN FOR A FUTURE
stlou says to (06:02:27):
remember that bozo who took the billions and didn't do anything
Med says to (06:02:28):
IT IS LIKE
YES
19 BILLION
FOR A 3 BILLION PROJECT
AND NEVER WAS ADDRESSED
stlou says to (06:02:54):
right..
another thought here Med..
Med says to (06:03:13):
YES
stlou says to (06:03:21):
why would the US pay 17 billion ?
Med says to (06:03:34):
I AM TOTALLY MIFFED ON THAT ONE
SINCE IT WAS OUR MONEY
TO BEGIN WITH
TO ME
IT IS SO ***bleep***HYPOCRITICAL
THEY WANT WHAT IS OWED THEM
ASAP
BUT FOR THEM TO PAY A DEBT
YOU HAVE TO PULL TEETH
stlou says to (06:04:44):
Med..we don't know what kind of stips came with the money..
Med says to (06:04:53):
I KNOW
BUT GEESH
stlou says to (06:04:58):
but with Lieberman there to mediate
and we pay 17 billion.
Med says to (06:05:15):
WE JUST SEEM TO BE TAKING IT IN THE BAZOO
FROM THEM ALL THE TIME
GIMME GIMME GIMME
GET OUT
stlou says to (06:05:30):
it would seem to me like a drop in the bucket if you know what kind of return you're going to get in the long run
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